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Episode 2299

Why the most expensive Seed deals are the cheapest | E2299

Jun 11, 20261:07:46Watch on YouTube

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Guest Links:

Tomasz Tunguz: https://x.com/ttunguz

Theory Ventures: https://theoryvc.com/

Michael Downing: https://www.linkedin.com/in/michaeldowning/

Castalia Capital: https://castalia.capital/

Paige Doherty: https://x.com/paigefinnn

Behind Genius Ventures: https://www.behindgeniusventures.com

Show Links:

Anthropic’s IPO announcement: https://www.anthropic.com/news/confidential-draft-s1-sec

OpenAI’s IPO announcement: https://openai.com/index/openai-submits-confidential-s-1/

Bending Spoons F-1 filing: https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/2004711/000110465926071170/tm2613674-7_f1.htm

SpaceX IPO filing: https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1181412/000162828026040364/spaceexplorationtechnologib.htm

Brendan Foody’s post on Sequoia: https://x.com/BrendanFoody/status/2063470286515683759

Claude Fable 5: https://www.anthropic.com/news/claude-fable-5-mythos-5

OpenRouter data on Chinese models: https://openrouter.ai/rankings?view=day

Saronic: https://www.saronic.com/

MotherDuck: https://motherduck.com/

Nox Metals: https://noxmetals.co/

Timestamps:

0:00 Tomasz Tunguz, Michael Downing & Paige Doherty join

1:29 The SpaceX IPO and the IPO window

3:44 Plaud: If your work depends on conversations — interviews, meetings, calls — you need a Plaud NotePin. You can check it out at https://Plaud.ai/twist and use code TWIST for 10% off!

5:52 The new bar: 10x growth (not 3x) to raise a great Series A

8:08 Net-new AI budgets

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10:31 How some founders are outgrowing venture capital

11:06 The power pendulum swings back to founders

12:08 SpaceX vs. OpenAI vs. Anthropic: Which IPO is most enticing?

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25:29 Tokens-for-equity, GPU-hours-for-equity & the financialization of compute

27:57 Founders airing VC dirty laundry (napping VCs included)

29:18 Netsuite - The business landscape is very chaotic right now. That's why you need NetSuite, by Oracle. Get the free business guide Demystifying AI at https://Netsuite.com/TWiST

36:00 Claude Fable 5 first impressions: pricing, benchmarks & orchestration

45:04 Where value accrues: application layer vs. models vs. private data

59:28 Nationalization of AI labs: Bernie Sanders, Sam Altman & Trump agree?!

1:00:47 Portfolio spotlights: Saronic, MotherDuck, and Nox Metals

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